I'm missing the door latch off my Stanley 740 roadster behind the seat compartment. The Latch is unkeyed and uses a square end T handle to open and close. The recess and cover appears identical to the boot latches so a boot latch would be fine. The pictures of the boot latch and the cut out are below.
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1922 735B Stanley Steam Car
This car is quite complete. I'm posting a whole bunch of pictures for consideration. Many parts look to be in great condition aside from dirt, dust, and age. Certainly much will require some refurbishing but if you are considering a Stanley you know all about that! All systems are quite simple, so is their restoration. Its not hard, just different!
There are 5 new tires, the right side are mounted, the others are still wrapped. Spare rim included. This car has a rear mounted trunk and extensions for the spare tire holder. Originally a California top car, included is a fairly complete set of hardware for the California top as well as a folding top and some gathers. Interior components and floorboards are complete with all hardware.
While you are welcome to 1 of 3 "old" boilers, I wouldn't recommend using any of the options. The burner is mostly complete but disassembled. Good for patterns for a new burner. The engine is complete and runs on air. Leaks a little but runs as a Stanley does on air.
Piping is mostly all there from what I can see. Pump pit fittings, wye's etc are there. Water and fuel filters, the essential valves (bypass, main fuel, firing up, etc) are all there. Probably will need a few hand valves to complete. Yarway blow down is there. Steam automatic, fuel automatic, low fuel cutoff, water automatic, etc included. Kidney gauge, service fuel tanks, water tank, hand pumps etc.
Chassis rolls nicely and appears in pretty good order. Body all has some various surface corrosion but not really any serious cancer. Wood is pretty solid. The doors do not all line up 100% but all doors latch at leaet on the first notch. Dash is pretty complete including gauges and lights. I have a speedometer or 2 that would fit. There is an air gauge as well which can be hard to find.
$22500 or best offer.
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To be offered at Bonhams' The Amelia Island Auction 5 Mar 2020, 12:00 EST, Fernandina Beach Golf Club.
Formerly in the Curt Blake Collection
1908 Stanley Model F 20HP Touring Car
Chassis no. 3899
Engine no. F-862
2-Cylinder Double-Acting Steam Engine
Chain-Driven Rear Differential
4-Wheel Leaf Spring Suspension
2-Wheel Mechanical Brakes
*Recognized as a highly authentic example
*Known ownership back to the 1950s
*In use in recent years
*Eligible for HCCA Tours
STANLEY STEAM CARS
Certainly the best known, if not the most common steamers, came from the Massachusetts workshops of former photographic equipment makers F.E. and F.O. Stanley. The earliest cars were buggy-like, with their boiler and valve controls under the seat, but eventually came to look much like conventional automobiles, having the boiler and motor under a boxy, coffin-like nose and the drive taken to the rear wheels.
When the early 10hp models were found to be limited in their performance if fully laden, Stanley responded with the scaled-up 20hp Model F in 1905. Form 1906 their wheelbase was extended slightly to 100 inches allowing for more coachwork capacity and the boiler enlarged to 23 inches. The model was a great success, remaining in production through to 1908 and being the basis for successive 20hp cars. A five passenger side entrance tonneau as that offered here could run then and today at 50mph, and would have set its owner back a mere $1,500 when new, which was terrific value compared to other cars, be they steam powered or gasoline. It led Stanley to claim that 'there is no American gasoline (sic) stock car, at any price, which is so speedy on road, hill or track'! The Model F actually was the fastest stock touring car in the word, as it won the honor at Ormond Beach alongside the Stanley Land Speed Racer.
THE MOTORCAR OFFERED
Stanley steam cars have always had a devoted following, many sharing the fascination of this bygone era before the world became fully dominated by cars powered by internal combustion engines. The curiosity and love of the concept and indeed the performance that a steam car offers has meant that long after their day enthusiasts would piece together spares and revive, resuscitate or indeed build cars from scratch. In the modern collecting era which has become more educated on purity, originality and authenticity of an automobile, this has made a quest for a truly original steam car become quite a challenge and even more so if one wants one of the larger horsepower examples.
It was exactly that conundrum that the late owner of this car faced when wishing to satiate his desire to add a 20hp Stanley to a well honed stable of the finest and purest pre-war automobiles. Finally in 2016, his attention was drawn to the example offered today, which in his the current idiom 'ticked all the boxes'. In its last ownership it has resided for a decade or more in the well-respected, but now disbanded Wells Auto Museum in Maine.
Stanley number 3899 could trace its ownership back to the 1950s or earlier always being known as a wonderful example of its breed. According to the online published Stanley Register and information kindly provided by Mark Herman, the car was owned by a Webster Knight in 1951, who is understood to have found it in Rhode Island. The car was suspended on the upper floor in an old mill building when Mr. Knight recovered it! In 1986 it joined the collection of Curtis Blake, one of the two car collecting brothers who owned the famed Friendly's chain of restaurants, and it was sympathetically, but extensively restored for him by Calvin Holmes, a pioneer steam car restoration specialist. The top currently on the car was a gift from noted steam car collector Frank Gardner and is said to be from his father's 1906 Model F, purchased new from the Stanley factory. It then went to Brent Campbell, a major collector and historian of the Stanley marque, and later the Gould family who ran Wells.
The car operates as originally outfitted with a single fuel gasoline burner and pilot, which is a notable original feature. The 1908 F is coveted for its updated Oil pump system and the graceful cowl that replace the earlier flat dashed cars of 1905-07. As purchased the Stanley was in running order, it has continued to be maintained in the last 3 years and has been taken to HCCA events.
Gurus of this genre and era, such as Mark Herman and Stu Laidlaw, cite this car being one of the very best of the surviving 20hp cars, high praise indeed!
It offers tour car potential and a truly collectible example of the marque and model, which is rarely found.Footnotes
Estimate- US$ 180,000 - 220,000
£ 140,000 - 170,000
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To be Offered at Bonhams' The Amelia Island Auction, 5 Mar 2020, 12:00 EST, Fernandina Beach Golf Club.
Believed to the last known surviving White steam car before the switch over to gasoline power
1910 White Model 0-0 5-Passenger Touring
Chassis no. 10347
Engine no. 1070
2-Cylinder Compound (High/Low) Steam Engine
Water-Tube Flash Boiler
Approx. 20bhp. Sold $80000.00
4-Wheel Leaf Spring
Rear Drum Brakes
*A highly authentic and original example of a well renowned model
*Formerly owned by Dick Wells for 25 years
*Sympathetically maintained and routinely steamed up
*Previously regularly driven on tours
THE WHITE STEAMER
White Steamers were manufactured in Cleveland, Ohio, from 1900 until 1910 by the White Motor Company. Thomas White and William Grout had gone into business as a manufacturer of sewing machines in Massachusetts before the Civil War, later moving the firm to Ohio. Around 1900, White's sons Rollin, Windsor, and Walter entered the steam automobile industry, producing four automobiles and one truck. Rollin White had already invented the semi-flash boiler, at that time an important advancement in steam technology. According to the Standard Catalog of American Cars, the firm had produced 193 vehicles in 1901. In 1906, White's automobile division began operating separately from its parent sewing machine business. White steamers were of excellent quality, and many were purchased by prominent individuals, including President Taft and John D. Rockefeller. In fact, a White was the only automobile present in the 1905 inaugural parade of President Theodore Roosevelt. In 1910, White made a successful foray into the manufacture of gasoline-powered vehicles, selling nearly as many of those as it had of steam cars. The numbers were fairly even again in 1911, but that was the final year for White steamers. By 1911, White had handily surpassed Stanley as the largest manufacturers of steam automobiles, delivering over 9,000 examples to Stanley's total of 5,200, despite costing significantly more.
White steamers featured a complex, "Compound" two-cylinder system in which water was flash-heated in a boiler, then compressed in one cylinder, and then injected into a second cylinder at high pressure. White steamers also used a rear transaxle that incorporated two forward speeds plus neutral; the neutral allowed an operator to warm up the car at rest. In 1918, when White ceased production of automobiles to concentrate on commercial trucks, it had produced more than 9,000 steam-powered cars. Although many were built, White steamers are rarely seen today. Whites are viewed by many as the finest of the early steam cars, well-built and costly when new, and greatly appreciated today.
THE MOTORCAR OFFERED
This Model O-O is presented from a stable of exceptionally high-quality early automobiles, each selected with the utmost care for correctness and originality. It is quite common for steam cars to have been revived from a modest basis of spares, but far rarer to find a pure, original example such as the car on offer. To judge from the car's condition today, it appears to have been sympathetically owned and only lightly restored over time, viewing it is a rewarding exercise.
The bodywork, finished in an understated white over black scheme is original, beneath the front passenger seat its body construction number can be found, 00941, and while some of the more used front seating has been retrimmed carefully, the rear door panels reveal themselves to be the original leather finish. The beauty of authentic cars is in the detail that they retain, and the White can be seen to still have features such as its original supply plate, kicker plates on the entry points on the front seating area and even its windshield still has its maker plaque confirming the existence of an entity long forgotten – The Troy Carriage Sun Shade Company of Troy, Ohio.
That the car survives so well 110 years after it was built in this fine order is testament to a simple chain of ownership, which the White Steam Car Registry cites a mere handful of custodians for the car, being Ollie Hall, Emmett Tucker, Charlie Kulchar and then Dick Wells in 1991 from whom the current owners acquired it in 2016. In its last ownership, Mr. Wells routinely used the car, steaming her up for a number of tours and as purchased it was in ready to use order.
This is recorded as the highest listed number in the sequence of these cars, in theory making it the last that was built/supplied – a notable claim and landmark in the story of White as they moved away from steam to petrol cars.Footnotes
Estimate- US$ 125,000 - 175,000
£ 98,000 - 140,000
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To be offered without reserve at Bonhams' The Amelia Island Auction, 5 Mar 2020, 12:00 EST, Fernandina Beach Golf Club.
1908 Stanley Steamer 10hp EX Runabout
Chassis no. 4108
10bhp Single-Cylinder Steam Engine
Solid Front Axle and Live Rear Axle
Full-Elliptical Leaf Spring Suspension
2-Wheel Mechanical Brake System
*Sporty and charismatic steam car
*From the estate of Mr. Gary Hoonsbeen.
*Known history since the 1960s
THE MOTORCAR OFFERED
The Stanley twins, Francis E. and Freelan O., were exceptionally gifted, creative designers who also happened to be solid businessmen. The famous steam automobile which bears their name is the second.
The Stanley Model EX was entirely a wooden body design including the main frame rails. The Model EX was a "four" passenger car. The rear seat was unlike any other Stanley. It was on sliders so it could be moved rearward to provide some room for passengers and slide forward to convert the rear area to just storage.
The Stanley's design had one advantage; it was an extremely light-weight vehicle. The EX Model, with about 450 pounds of steam pressure could reach 60mph for a mile or so; it could accelerate at rates that would beat any internal combustion engine vehicle then produced.
This particular 1908 Stanley Model EX was discovered in a barn in Massachusetts in the 1960s. It was purchased from a collector in Massachusetts by Gary Hoonsbeen in 2004. Gary, known best for his 40-years as editor of the Curved Dash Oldsmobile Club newsletter, had recently completed a restoration of a 1900 Mobile. The steam engine Mobile had been used by Gary on several tours and proved to be a reliable car, he now was looking to tackle a Stanley.
This Stanley Model EX had undergone a previous restoration, but Gary felt much of the work had been done incorrectly or of poor quality. He set about to return this Stanley to its original specifications spending over 6-years on a meticulous restoration.
As he was completing the work on this Stanley, his health turned poor. However, he had fully tested all the systems and was confident the car was ready for its initial run. He passed away before being able to start the car.
The car is offered largely complete as shown, with parts and documents chronically Gary's restoration.
Estimate-US $ 60,000 - 80,000
£ 47,000 - 63,000
To be sold without reserve
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